Public comments from the Castle Mall Exhibition June 1997 - Page 1
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During June 1997, an exhibition was held at the Castle Mall in Norwich of Mr Michael Innes' suggestions of how a hospital with similar footprint to that at Colney could be accommodated on the existing St Stephen's Road site :
without disturbing clinical activities,
in a similar time span,
without disturbing the listed buildings,
with 1,000+ car park spaces and
at reduced cost.
A 'comments' book was provided and some 1,540 of the comments are listed below.
Identification is by initial only. Where possible the home of the person is indicated. Sometimes the writing was too difficult to read and here a "?" has been substituted.
It is also possible to view a petition with about 40,000 signatures, but for this you will have to apply to South Norfolk District Council who have it locked away in their offices.
ROB Norwich - There is no point in moving a hospital that is fine where it is.
P Norwich - Moving the hospital out of Norwich could cost lives, there is NO point.
SL North Walsham - Where I live there is no proper access to Colney. So I think the N&N should stay.
MFT Poringland - I feel the hospital is best situated in the city where it is.
BEM Flordon - The hospital is for the people. The people are in and around the city. Some have to use public transport.
SG Norwich - Please keep the N&N hospital in the city where everyone can come.
JG Norwich - The hospital is ideally placed - keep it where it is. Elderly & young cannot get to Colney.
AC Taverham - The hospital must be kept in the city.
PM & SS Norwich - The N&N should definitely be kept in Norwich, it is a waste of money to build at Colney.
JC Norwich - I consider that the N&N should stay ??? the ??? of Norwich.
Mrs G Thorpe - This hospital is needed for people like myself with osteo of the spine who have to rely on taxis and it is going to cost me the earth to travel to Colney.
RCP Taverham - We must keep the hospital in Norwich city because it is easy access for everyone and not everyone has personal transport to get to Colney. I really do not agree with the waste of a building - extend the one you have got.
RS Catton - Keeping the Hospital makes it accessible for all Norwich residents.
MB Norwich - Illegible!
RR Norwich - Keep N&N in Norwich
AF Poringland - Keep it where it is.
AG Diss - Rebuild the one in Norwich. Everybody wants it this way!
BW Norwich - Rebuild on the same site. Public transport have no faith in it being viable in the future.
AS Sprowston - We must have a hospital in the city!!
JW - Keep the N&N in the city!
ML - Please keep in the city!
CS - Don't go back on your word.
HF - Keep the N&N in the city.
KL & KL Norwich - Keep Hospital in Norwich.
? Norwich - Keep the hospital in Norwich, improve the car park at much less cost.
CP Norwich - Ditto
? Dunston - Keep it where it is and make the car parking better.
Mr & Mrs H Norwich - We must keep the hospital in Norwich, it is the place for it to be. I am sure that it is what the people want.
NW Sprowston - Colney is on a green site. It is wrong for the hospital to be constructed in a place where damage to the environment will take place. It is most important to keep the N&N in Norwich.
BA Norwich - Consent was given for a second hospital - no-one knew that it was to be the only hospital for Norwich and Norfolk. Its retention having been demonstrated to be practicable and cost effective the proposal should be reconsidered immediately.
NA - I had to attend for blood tests at the N&N at 9am. This would have been impossible by public transport. Also the interest costs on the hospital will be high in the years to come.
JH Strumpshaw - The hospital must be kept in the city for environmental and access.
KMF - Keep in city, what other use for site.
SS - NHS hospital in the city with NHS money. No private health.
B Lowestoft - Best for old people if kept in city.
Mr & Mrs S Eccles - Easy access for all patients and workers.
JD Wymondham - Keep it in the city. Norwich needs the hospital.
GW Lowestoft - I spent 30 years backwards and forwards with my husband for treatment.
TL Norwich - I think the hospital is in the best place where it is situated.
A - The N&N is best placed in the centre of town.
DF Norwich - I think it is well placed as everyone can get to it.
CAG Norwich - Please stay in city, better access for everyone.
JR Norwich - The Hospital needs to be central, many people who rely on public transport will suffer if it is moved.
JB Norwich - A hospital serving Norwich and Norfolk should be in the City of Norwich.
MC & TC Norwich - Supporting campaign, will help if needed.
DR Ashill - Don't be so selfish! it's Norfolk and Norwich Hospital.
MO Drayton - Please keep our hospital in Norwich city.
MB Norwich - Keep it in Norwich.
RC & CC - Keep it in Norwich.
JW - Improve the existing site.
CA - A lot safer knowing there is a hospital round the corner.
RJ Norwich - Rebuild on the same site.
DW Norwich - You are totally narrow minded and misguided if you are incapable of seeing the benefits of a new greenfield site for a new modern hospital for the millennium outside of Norwich.
? - Keep hands where they belong at your side.
Mr & Mrs AR Trowse - We want the Hospital to remain in the city.
CN Norwich - Keep the hospital in the city where it is accessible to everyone unlike Colney which just suits the doctors.
STL Long Stratton - Keep the hospital in the city to be convenient to the public who use it.
SL Sprowston - Please! Please! keep the hospital in the city for us to have easy transport there. Please. Thanks.
NAC Norwich - This is important to the city centre to keep it alive. Keep people coming to the city centre!!!
ME Norwich - It is very important to everybody to be kept in the city.
AB Stoke Holy Cross - Please, please keep the N&N in Norwich. It is so important the voice of the little people must be heard!!!
CAS Norwich -Keep it in the city. It is most ? place and for those who don't drive.
Mr & Mrs B Norwich - Please keep our hospital in the city. We don't want to go to Colney.
EV Norwich - Spend the money on the good hospital we already have.
CW Norwich - Keep N&N hospital in Norwich. Reason travel expense and time.
MDF Horning - Easier access.
JA Acle - We need it in Norwich - the elderly must get easy access.
JTB Stoke Holy Cross - To make use of the N&N within the city centre makes sense in every way. Easy reach of all patients is essential.
O & PR Thorpe - Keep in city.
MW Norwich - Keep it in the city. It has always been there.
DW Norwich - Keep the hospital where it is. I can't see why it needs to be moved.
SW Sprowston - A hospital should remain in a city for people without cars. The journey is too long for people to keep appointments
Mrs R Catton - As an OAP I feel it should not even be considered to move from the city.
TEA - Keep it where i t belongs.
Mr & Mrs B Palgrave - Keep the hospital. It's the right place. Keep the hospital in Norwich.
KF Norwich - Keep hospital local in Norwich
AS Norwich - Keep the hospital in the most sensible place - centre of Norwich.
FS Norwich - Why move it?
JH Norwich - We have been let down by our MPs.
Mr & Mrs W Norwich - Should Stay in City.
EJL Norwich - Ditto.
EG Norwich - Ditto.
SJL Norwich - Ditto.
C Brundall - Ditto.
LL Swainsthorpe - Ditto.
SS Norwich - Hospitals are for patients and their needs and they are best served when a hospital is central for access. If the hospital moves the city will die and it will cost us all dearly.
TG Thorpe - Time it will take to get to Colney you'll be dead.
JS Norwich - MPs as soon as in have turned tables. It is a ridiculous idea to have it out of city.
CS Norwich - To put hospital at Colney is sheer waste of money and should not be allowed. The people of Norwich should be listened to.
AS Norwich - Moving the hospital out of the city would be an environmental and sociological disaster. People should not need to use cars, many elderly and poor people can not use them.
JW - They should not build the N&N hospital at Colney. The old site is more efficient.
JF Bawburgh - No profits for private investors, all available finance to be put into further patient care. Less visitors for patients if located at Colney, at extra cost in bus fares.
VN Norwich - I would like the hospital to stay in Norwich as I sometimes have to attend dermatology every day, the expense of bus fares is prohibitive.
SMB - Keep the N&N in St Stephens.
SB - Definitely keep the hospital in Norwich.
JS - Why destroy a good building - keep it in Norwich.
Mr & Mrs B - The N&N has been the hospital of Norwich for many years and is still in good kilt. It is closer for ambulance and emergency to get to in and around Norwich than Colney. It is pointless spending millions of pounds on a new building which is in a ridiculous location. Why not spend the money on renovating our original hospital.
Mr & Mrs N - The whole community around the present hospital will be scuppered if the heart of the city is ripped out.
- No greenfield site.
- No move needed but thoughtful planning.
- No change of city ?
- No 1970s thinking.
- No pocket-lining for the fat cats.
- OPEN THE ACCOUNTS.
? - I care less where they build the hospital. When I needed urgent medical treatment I have been refused treatment. I am still waiting for my sinus treatment. Certain people are not entitled even if they are living 31 years in the country married to an Englishman born in Norwich.
EW Hethersett - It would be a disaster, recognised certainly by future generations, to site the hospital at Colney. The hospital must be kept in the city for the welfare of Norwich and Norfolk residents. As a member of staff at the N&N the hospital is for the people of Norfolk & Norwich.
LME Norwich - Recent;y I had to visit someone in the N&N - it was convenient to nip in there after work - I didn't have a car at the time. I would not have been able to visit anyone during the week if the hospital was at Colney. I am also very worried about the potential damage to the city centre economy following a move to Colney.
PY Norwich - On our estate there are many older people who cannot drive, it would be horrendous for them to get to Colney, taxis would cost a fortune and buses likewise and probably two different buses will need to be used both ways. Also it is so convenient at the moment to visit friends and family whilst in the city centre. Keep the hospital where it is!
PP Norwich - I used to be in favour of Colney but have now realised that a greenfield site would be destroyed and a huge part of Norwich will die off if the hospital moves from its present site.
AS Norwich - It is far easier for people to travel to and it is a focal point of the city centre.
OD Hellesdon
PAF Norwich
S & EK Norwich
G & OC Norwich
MT Spixworth - Feel very strongly that hospital should be here to stay!!!
PW Hellesdon - Definitely should stay in Norwich.
DC Norwich - It would be more economical to stay put, the buildings are perfectly adequate plus have historic value - due to architecture etc. - and is convenient for all being in the city centre.
MW Norwich
JEN Newmarket
PC Norwich
JR Norwich - Essential the hospital should be in Norwich; how do people without transport manage?
RP Hellesdon - For both patients and staff a hospital in a central position is essential.
ED Norwich - Do you want to kill the city?
RW Sprowston - Important for city centre employees shopping etc. and easy access for patients plus what will happen to old site if it moves - another derelict area?
JK Norwich
MK Norwich - Very important to the city.
P & BB - Important for people to get into hospital (especially the elderly) keep it in the city.
REJT Norwich - A hospital too far.
KS Norwich - Keep our hospital where it is.
MP Catton - Keep our N&N in Norwich.
NB Kenninghall - Keep N&N in Norwich.
EB Kenninghall - Kill the greedy bastards!
EC Norwich - Keep N&N where the community needs it.
AT Norwich - Keep it in the city
A & TL - Ditto
DC - Ditto.
CS - Keep it where it is needed for all the people.
CH - It is needed in the city!
SN Norwich - Why move the hospital to an out of centre, inaccessible part of the city?
JE Loddon - Leave it where it is!
JE Norwich - Where else should it be?!!
CW Southrepps - We need the hospital to stay where it is needed in the city of Norwich not out in the countryside. Keep the countryside for our children!
MH Norwich - Preserve city centre, keep countryside clear. Michael Innes' plan is super, answers all objections!
PM Norwich
JG Norwich - Should be in the city centre.
SC Sprowston - Makes so much sense to keep it where it is and improve it. Don't want another empty space in the centre and greenfield site developed.
E & CH Norwich - Keep the hospital in Norwich where we need it.
HB Norwich - Keep it where we need it.
GH Norwich
BM Hellesdon - Keep it in the city.
MC - Keep it in the city.
MW, NP ,BH - Please move out of the city. Colney is an excellent site and will take Norwich into the next century.
GMC Colney - Lets keep it in the city. Lets solve the parking problem on the present site. Lets have it where people can get at it. Don't lets cover many acres of greenfields in concrete. Don't lets depend on the motor car indefinitely into the future.
RO Drayton - Need the hospital in the city.
ST Norwich - The children are our future.
SC Norwich - They have saved mine and my daughter's life. Why kill the hospital.
Mr & Mrs Y Norwich - Hospital must be kept in Norwich. We must keep fighting against Colney. We have to date (16/7/97) met only one person (besides the doctors) who wouldn't mind Colney.
JM Norwich - Keep the hospital in Norwich.
WRK Cringleford - The hospital should be where people can get to it easily ie in the city centre - not in a place outside the town where road access is inadequate.
Mrs S Norwich
BAC Norwich - For 100% convenience.
JB London - The logic of this presentation is impressive and rational. However, will our elected representatives have the courage to stand up and reversethe process of closure!
BA Norwich - Please listen to the masses.
RMA Norwich - We want it in Norwich.
HJH Norwich - It is a total outrage a city the size of Norwich needs facilities in the city centre or additional hospitals not less.
MD Sprowston - Needs to be near a bus and rail station also shops hard by and near for workers.
VB Wymondham - Keep it in Norwich. Cannot get to the new one.
JT Norwich - It will cost me a day off work to get there by two or three buses. Unacceptable.
GC Thorpe - It is the most stupid idea ever thought up by the burocrats.
EC - Spend £££ on old hospital. What is the point of new hospital for consultants pleasure!!
LL Hempnall - Inaccessability for patients emergency treatment - waste of a perfectly good historical functioning building - an asset to Norwich being wasted unnecessarily.
Mr & Mrs C Sprowston - Inaccessability for patients.
Mr & Mrs C
MA Norwich
MAB Norwich - Too far for elderly people to travel.
JM Norwich
EM Thorpe
HC Norwich
JR Norwich - Keep the hospital in the city. Not everybody has their own transport.
DB Norwich - It wouldn't be as easy to get to a hospital out of the city - less visitors and necessary support.
JH - Must keep our hospital.
BJD - Must keep in city.
PR - Ditto.
SR Norwich - there is no need to dig up more trees and plants.
JT Norwich - What's the point?
JO - Keep the hospital in the city.
MT - Keep it local.
JB Norwich - It needs to be accessable.
MF-J - It is needed in Norwich.
SH Cringleford - The city need a hospital in the centre.